INNERCIRCLE

Sorry, I had to get this off my chest.

Yesterday I was with a friend who had just bought one of those CD-DJ-Players. Really nice and shiny one, it gives a Knightrider light effect if you use it etc. pp. Besides that, my friend still has the complete vinyl setup and an incredible amount of vinyl records.

It got me thinking though.

See, the problem is, once you go down that road, it doesn't make rational sense to buy vinyl anymore. It doesn't even make sense to buy CD's anymore (that never made sense since most single releases in the electronic world are never released on CD anyway - and who wants to wait for the most useless format in the universe - the techno album on a CD?).
Economically it doesn't make sense - compare a 1,99 EUR release on Beatport to 9,99 EUR that you often pay for Vinyl these days (if it's only 6,99 it's still pretty much the same).
It also doesn't make sense to wait 4 weeks or longer for releases, go crate digging, pre-order in a shop if you can just get it right there, online.
Finally, of course, carrying a stupid laptop and CD's (or even better, just a mp3-mix-board-something) is so much lighter than those crates of vinyl. (Ok, one could argue - don't be such a p*ssy )

There are many problems with it:
The first problem is, as with almost all online business, we cut out the middleman. Which usually is "ok", since it's some fake-ass-b*tch-*ssh*le (sorry ) who just wants to make a buck for nothing (like big department stores or something), and I couldn't feel less sorry for them. And usually they have some other business they can compensate with.
But in our setup, we cut out the record dealers, and it's a shame.
Already this year, the record-dealer-business follows the same boring business laws that already dominate the "big" industry - consolidation. I'm sure that in one or two years max. you'll find maybe one or two big record stores per city that can afford to have current releases all the time. When I went to one of my favorite stores in Cologne recently, I noticed they didn't have much of the current stuff - a sure sign that business goes down the drain. Surely, next door is the Kompakt store, they have everything you could ask for (if it's techno, that is) but the healthy competition will soon dry out. They just can't generate enough cash-flow anymore to keep ordering new stuff.


Why am I lamenting?

The DJ-sets become more and more boring and similar - it used to be that you could tell from the records who was playing that night, partly because only special (good) DJ's would get the latest promos of special (good) labels. With everything available anywhere and anytime, everything also starts to sound the same. And playing a good set used to happen at least 30 % before the evening - when the DJ had to go cratedigging and compile the best records for that night. Now it's more quickly downloading the "hits" 30 mins before the set and I bet pretty soon there will be a stupid Facef**k function to exchange playlists or something.

Also, DJ's now start to flip through burned CD's or worse lists of digital files, looking for the perfect beat / what to play next. But that's not how our brain works. When I try to remember song that would perfect as the next one, there's a lot of sensations involved when I flip through my vinyl - could be a cover, could be something I wrote on the cover, could be the size of the record ("ah, yeah, that 10" ibadan!"), etc. pp.
HUMANS DON'T THINK IN LISTS, computers do. So very often I hear very uninspired sets cuz the DJ just played what he could remember in his "list".

Without vinyl, the art of the record cover will disappear as well. And if it survives as some little picture coming with the file - compare that to the beautiful big canvas and artist had as his disposal with a 12" cover!

Last but not least: Really good friends and gifted people loose their businesses. And it's not just anyone. E.g. our beloved Marcus Worgull has a store - I hope it's gonna survive and thrieve - but for how long? And what about all his wonderful colleagues who work there and can't make a buck on DJing?
Going to a record store was (and still is) the coolest thing in the world - you talk, you grab new flyers, you flip through the new releases, you forget time and come home to late, etc. you know the deal. But there is now other business these stores can turn to (except maybe selling clothes and being the 572th store in their street to make lattes). Once the recorddealer is cut out of the suplly chain, what is he supposed to do?



Who's to blame?

The labels: Things I don't get - why oh why do you put out MP3-releases BEFORE a vinyl release? It should be the other way around. People don't need any additional motivation to turn to digital - they need motivation to buy a proper record. Or take Versatile Records - recently releasing a track mp3 only - WTF? We need Vinyl only!

The DJ's: For using CD's and MP3's - why lead with such bad example? And these days, everyone is doing it. Dixon, Ame, you name them. It's actively killing a part of the music culture, and there's really no need for it. The sets are not better, the mixing techniques usually gets worse, the sound is not better, it's just more "convenient" and cheaper. Bah. So why paint pictures as an artist? Why play theatre when you have digital animation?

I know, I'm probably just old-fashioned and people will respond that's it's a development we can't stop. But that's not true. We started it.

Peace,

i.

I agree with you.

Innersoul I can't agree with you more. And I am probably going to get quite worked up as I write this

I have recently come back to buying records and djing after some time of traveling, studying etc. 6 years actually. When I stopped dj’ing and buying records back in 2002 cdj's were in clubs, but vinyl still held pride of place in every dj's bag. Being a good Dj was about dedication. Dedication to obtaining the records, and the dedication to practice as well. I only used a cd j this year for the first time, and I must say that it was fantastic to play on. And easy.

The overwhelming positive of the cd players is that a producer dj can re-edit/remix/produce a track the afternoon of a big party and play it that night, fantastic. Hot cues, loops etc give the creative dj a chance to really push the boundaries of what is expected at a club night. And the easy of use can really give a long mix a super smooth touch. None of this is bad.

But the reality is that most dj's now seem to play cd's solely, do not take advantage of these functions, play low quality mp3's, mostly illegally downloaded. And that the turntables have become an expensive place to put your cd wallet The 1200's are the most enduring image of 'dance culture' that there will ever be, and now they are covered in piles of cdr's?? Get F*#ked.



Now this is not an elitist’s rant, I know that the net has brought us together and that it breaks down social and economic boundaries, to a degree, but what happened to the days when you walked into a record shop for the first time, not knowing what you wanted and asking someone? Learning from them, becoming friends, and overtime being allowed access to what is under the counter, or in the back room?

I have recently met dj's (working dj's not bedroom dj's) with resonable reputations that do not own any vinyl. My record collection is a personal source of pride, it is in my living room and I enjoy simply looking at it. I enjoy knowing that it cost me alot of money over the years and I worked for it. I do not believe that that feeling of pride can be achieved by looking at an external hard drive, no matter how TB's of stolen music is on it.

And how dare anyone go out and make money, djing, playing music that was produced by artists that will receive no payment for their work? This makes no moral sense to me, and I am NOT against file sharing totally, but if you are going to profit from someone’s product have the respect to pay for it!

Because now like Innnersoul I can't get good records regularly at my local shops (the ones left), my favorite has not had a shipment for a month! And when I am in there on shipment day there may be only one other person there as well. But the business survives because they sell tones of copies of Ableton and midi controllers. Fantastic, now the kids don't even need to learn how to beat match.

I love this music and I love this scene, lets not let it die.


This is the answer I think, there is nothing wrong with this download sites, I use them and download from them some times. But lets make it that the freshest djs play the freshest tracks on vinyl, because it is only on vinyl and the freshest unreleased tracks are on CD. It's up to the lables, because people will only do what is cheap and easy. Because people are generally tight and lazy.

Sorry for the rant,

R.v.O

@Roland
Yeah, I didn't even get started on all the illegal copies. Fact is, if it's on beatport, it's on some stupid kiddies music blog one hour later. IF there's a bigger margin for the artist in the mp3 business, it's eaten up by all the lost sales due to illegal distribution of digital files.

I get that artists and probably small lables can make a bigger profit on mp3's than on vinyl. All the equipment and infrastructure to put out vinyl requires a bigger initial investment than merely setting up your Mac. It's so much easier to get your music out there than it used to be.
But that's a bad thing!
Because this initial barrier kept all the half-dedicated minor-talented artists off the record business. Even before mp3, the market was flooded with minor quality releases. Too many b-sides of b-sides out there. With vinyl, you would only put your BEST track out, because it was a financial risk and you wanted only your high-quality material out there (and even then, 80 % of the records were crap ). But with an mp3, what do you have to lose? So we get flooded with even more crap. Many "artists" still think we need another Innervisions-soundalike-rip-off (I already talked about it in the Ame rip-off thread). But now with everyone being able to put out music, it's just too much.
Because who really wants to go through the 1000 new releases every new week on all the download platforms? (Another aspect to that record-dealer thing: a good record dealer is / was a very good filter. When I go to my favorite places, e.g. Marcus Worgull's Groove Attack in Cologne, I already now that they will order only the good stuff. So per week I might have had to go through 50 or so releases, but at least all of them good quality. Now it's like: "Please listen to these 5000 minor bitrate mp3-samples to get the totally wrong idea about a track because it will sound so much different on proper headphones or in a club.").
And so far I haven't heard an mp3-only release or label the world couldn't live without.

unfortunately times change and things move on, its the way of the modern world...

we'd still be lighting fires in caves and spearing animals to eat if it didnt.

I know this post would come

1. That's not the point. I think I just made a pretty strong case that it's not a necessary or good advancement.
   Not all modern development is per se beneficial. And not all development will last. I think the inventors of the CD or recently the HD-DVD thought they are the future. At least the CD has been outlived by vinyl already.
2. Many artforms (and we are talking about music as an artform!) have not progressed, luckily! Theater, Opera, Concerts are still set up the same way they used to be centuries ago (except that these days it get's interrupted by the newest jamba-ringtone when people don't turn of their cells) The same goes for rock- or pop-concerts or DJ-gigs, even with their short history. Coldplay do pretty much the same things on stage that the Beatles did. ok, the cocaine-laden VJ's go a little crazy these days but the process of making the music stays the same.

I really love vinyl and that's how it started. I was 14 and bumped into a local recordstore. it did not start in a club or somewhere. Just in a record shop. In a little town with 20000 inhabitants. Now it's 2008 and 10 years later. by the way - the shop closed in 1998 and not because of digital stuff and the shop owners are still some of my best friends....
but what I want to say is that vinyl was and still is a thing to work with (in my eyes). Okay it's nice to have all that covers and it's nice to have these special-US-what-so-ever-whitelabel-promos that nobody had, but it's work equipment. some years ago there was only vinyl. Now there are different opportunities. Okay - I agree... I miss the long hours in record shops all over the world, i miss the people selling records and talking to me about all the lovely music. But mp3 or CDs dont kill music. There are still a lot of good productions around and I cant see that the music quality gets down in any way. there were always shitty records, now we have shitty mp3s. Its the same as far as I can see. and a thing I dont miss at all: to pay over hundreds of euros or deutschmarks every month for records. I am not a record collector. I am a dj.

thanks for all your opinions... its a pleasure to read it!

Re Point 1

For the people that use vinyl now, they are people who are more than likely collectors of it, and its almost antique to a certain point. To say the CD has been outlived by vinyl is lunacy?! CD's are still outselling vinyl, however they have taken a backseat to downloadable mp3 - but that is logical progression. There will never be a definative format/medium, it will constantly progress with technology - its a fact of life, technology will always advance whether people like it or not

Re Point 2

Is a bit of a contradiction to your arguement really, as youve stated, certain sections have somewhat stayed still (altho im not fully in agreement with this - advanced production techniques, lighting etc have all advanced the theater/concerts etc) but by staying still they've proved that if a format works, then people will stick with it. Does that then suggest that if vinyl is as good as your making out, lots of people wouldnt have turned to digital formats

As i say, technology moves on - you cant stop that, but if there's enough demand from people like yourself (which there should be if the product is as good as you say it is) then older formats eg vinyl will never die out completely.

Regarding the cd: what i meant is that vinyl has been around for 150 years, cd's have existed for 20 and will soon be gone already. And the oldest cd's aren't even usable anymore due to corrosion.

About your other points: that's the old market argument, that the market will always regulate itself. Yawn. It doesn't necessarily mean it will work out well or that it even is a healthy development. And mp3 is not the best format, it's just cheap, often pirated, and convenient. Anyway, i was just observing.

Funnily enough I crafted a feature on record shops in The Midlands, UK which was recently published 69 Magazine - the UKs biggest free entertainment & lifestyle magazine (http://www.69-247.com).

I wanted to highlight the decline in the culture of record buying and the closure of many independent vinyl haunts. I'm not against technological advances, however to me personally downloading poor quality mp3s is 'soulless' as opposed to buying records - as going to a record shop you could find that deleted 12", one-off album, upfront promo, hidden gem and strike up a rapport with staff/fellow customers who'll inevitably recommend you essential 12"s. To me just going on a download site and downloading individual tracks is boring and unimaginative. The bonus of buying an album/ep/lp sampler is that you may discover after hammering the a-side the b-side is particularly good too. I just think the digital culture is more 'disposable' - whereas with records you could check your collection before a gig/radio show etc and pick out some hidden gems/secret weapons you forgot about.

With downloads too I think the majority want tracks that are new and upfront - whereas with vinyl there's more of a culture where people buy just as much old stuff as new. As I'm only 23 I'm still discovering loads of classic house/disco - i.e Prescription, Larry Heard, Basic Channel Nu Groove, Ron Hardy etc that's probably influential to the house genre today for example Innervisions.

So again, I've got nothing against anyone who plays Cdrs/Mp3s - it's their choice. I'm just happy playing on my 2 1210's, mixer and collection of records. To be honest I'm not the most technologically advanced at all - hence when I devised my Radio Show I called it 'The Vinyl Frontier' (http://www.futurebeatradio.com - props to gums for getting me involved) - me just pulling out records from the bag/collection, giving it a more 'organic feel'.

That's why I'm loving Innervisions - not just releasing heavy music but also the cover artwork, community & ethos that was synonymous with releases/artists in earlier times when vinyl was a commodity.

Anyway, I won't bang on - if you want to check my published feature then read below.

Peace...

Aiden

INTO THE VINYL FRONTIER…

Though romanticists and technophobes may argue, the public’s love affair with vinyl is in steady decline. With the burgeoning rise of digital downloads and the corporate behemoths of HMV and Virgin dominating the homogenised High Street, vinyl reached its zenith long ago, with music fans ever-losing their zeal for the traditionalist format as they embrace the digital age. This changing music climate has had a significant impact on independent record retailers, especially in The Midlands – with both Derby’s ‘Reveal Records’ and Loughborough’s ‘Left Legged Pineapple’ very recently meeting untimely demises. So in support of both vinyl and your local record store, 69 gives you the lowdown on The Midlands’ favourite independent haunts…

2FUNKY
62 Belgrave Gate, Leicester, LE1 3GQ, 0116 299 0700, http://www.2-funky.co.uk

Ten years strong now, 2Funky has become an institution not just to Leicester and The Midlands but throughout the UK and Europe too. Specialising in R&B, Garage, Hip-Hop and Reggae, 2Funky accommodates a loyal clientele that consists of not just music lovers and collectors but also a plethora of DJs that play on the UK’s top radio stations – including Radio One, 1Xtra, Choice, Kiss and Galaxy. Not content in just selling records, the store has taken the pioneering step of devising an Arts Council, simultaneously co-ordinating successful community projects and education workshops to involve the younger generation into the urban music scene, thus developing and enhancing the 2Funky brand.

BPM RECORDS
3 Malcolm Arcade, Leicester, LE1 5FT, 0116 253 9988, http://www.myspace.com/bpm_records

Catering for everybody as opposed to just DJs, BPM aims solely at the market the major stores don’t cater for. Set up by Dave Hill and Lisa Woolley in 1987, it’s been an integral part of the music scene in The Midlands ever since. First setting up in Derby, they opened their now iconic second store in Leicester two years later. However, since the closure of their Derby store due to the rise of CDs, MP3s and decrease in sales of vinyl, they’ve diversified their Leicester store. The new look BPM has a CD shop on the ground floor selling everything from Americana to Urban whilst upstairs still retains the classic BPM tradition, specialising in upfront and promo releases as well as back catalogue dance vinyl – ranging from house and techno to hardcore and drum'n'bass.

FUNKY MONKEY
14 Goose Gate, Nottingham, NG1 1FF, 0115 956 1181, http://www.funkymonkey.co.uk

Found in the hip and vibrant district of Hockley, Funky Monkey adds another flavour to the areas stylish boutique shopping scene with its small, intimate setting, diverse selection of music and independent ethos. Not content in covering all the bases of house including US, Deep, Tech, Soulful, Funky and Electro, Funky Monkey stocks a whole myriad of other genres too that includes R&B, Hip-Hop, Funk, Soul and Disco. Free of any pretensions or elitist attitude, the staff are very approachable and will endeavour in finding that elusive record for you, whether it be the obscure import or latest upfront promo that you’ve been after. Keeping the funk alive in vinyl, Funky Monkey is definitely worth seeking out…

HARD TO FIND RECORDS
10 Upper Gough Street, Birmingham, B1 1JG, 0121 687 7777, http://www.htfr.com

Though not as ‘hard to find’ as the title implies, Hard To Find Records is actually a labyrinthine vinyl empire which stocks thousands of ‘hard to find’ records within it’s realm. Though perceived by many as a record behemoth, Hard To Find still retains the independent ethos of many smaller, self-sufficient stores due to its diligent staff and sourcing of rare records. Encompassing a multitude of genres, the stores’ vast selection of records cover everything from house to techno, electro to disco, trance to hard dance, indie to r’n’b and everything in-between. Not content in enticing you with a colossal selection of records for your delectation, Hard To Find also stocks the latest DJ equipment, technology and paraphernalia – aiding you in turning your DJ dream into reality….


INTERSTELLAR SOUNDS
PO Box 7727, Leicester, LE1 6UH, 07930 516 138, http://www.interstellarsounds.com

From a galaxy far, far away… Touching down in Leicester back in 2005, Interstellar Sounds’ desire has been to supply and open ears to quality electronic music whilst expand and form links with likeminded artists, labels and distributors that grasp a genuine passion for the music they produce. Not taking the vapid trajectory of following current fashion or trends, the online store predominantly stocks sounds that are synonymous with the musically inspiring cities of Detroit and Chicago – also stocking an eclectic mix of intergalactic grooves from all over Planet Earth. Its next sonic mission is to present new artists of its own, form a record label and support the traditional vinyl record format, with a physical outlet maybe on the horizon. Watch this space…

MUSIC AND VIDEO EXCHANGE
8 Smallbrook Queensway, Birmingham, B5 4EN, 0121 632 6262, http://www.mveshops.co.uk

One for the serious crate-digger, the Music and Video Exchange is one of the UK’s biggest and best established retailers of second-hand records. As the shop buys and sells music in any format, this has resulted in it acquiring a vast selection of stock from a diverse array of musical purveyors, including DJs, producers, musicians, serious collectors and the average music lover too. So whether you’re after the deleted jazz re-issue, one-off rock album, underground house bomb or obscure film soundtrack, the Music and Video Exchange is the perfect opportunity to spend endless hours sourcing out that record that has eluded you for all these infinite years. Go on, get those fingers dusty…

SELECT-A-DISC
19/21 Market Street, Nottingham, NG1 6HX, 0115 947 5420, http://www.selectadisc.co.uk

Established nearly four decades ago back in 1966, Select-a-Disc has been at the forefront of the alternative music scene ever since and still remains fiercely independent to this day. Stocking a broad-spectrum of music that covers Pop, Rock, Indie, Soul, Jazz, Blues, Folk, Electronica and Dance plus everything in-between, it’s where vinyl aficionados can seclude themselves in record paradise – losing countless hours and gaining dusty fingers in the process. Also stocking an extensive range of re-issues, deletions, overstock and second-hand records, Select-a-Disc is definitely one for the music connoisseur and will continue in being an integral part of The Midlands’ music scene.

TEMPEST RECORDS
83 Bull Street, Birmingham, B4 6AB, 0121 236 9170, http://www.temrec.com

Situated in the heart of Birmingham, Tempest has a labyrinthine selection of vinyl that will get any discerning vinyl-junkie salivating. Covering a dizzying three floors, records aren’t a scarcity here; with Rock and Indie on the main floor, Techno, Minimal, Deep House, Hardcore and Trance dominating the first floor plus Hip-Hop, Drum & Bass, Soul, US House and Garage found in the basement. Though the diversity and enormity in Tempest’s selection may seem daunting, there’s nothing to fear as the staff are very friendly, being able to give sound advice with their encyclopedic knowledge on not just the music but also their extensive range of merchandise – including turntables, mixers, headphones and DJ bags.

THE RECORD ROOM
63 Long Row, Belper, DE56 1DR, 01773 599999, http://www.therecordroom.co.uk

Having experienced the struggle of paying overheads of a physical store, JP Skipper (AKA Skip) founded The Record Room seven years ago in the confines of his home. Though a web-only store, it retains the independent ethos and personal service you would expect in a record shop. Dictated more by format and geography than genre, the music stocked encompasses the unique and global sounds of Nu-Jazz, Broken Beat, Neo-Soul, Jazz, Latin and Funk – also specialising in rare Japanese records and merchandise. Open all year-round for your delectation at the click of a mouse, The Record Room may only be online yet still manages to captivate the nostalgia of record-buying – going from one bedroom to another.

VINYL UNDERGROUND
80 Abington Street, Northampton, NN1 2BB, 01604 634433, http://www.vinylunderground.co.uk

Out towards the southern reaches of the East Midlands in the cultural black hole that is Northampton, the unlikely location of a furniture shop houses the Vinyl Underground headquarters. Since its inception in 1994 as a small mail-order outlet dealing in specialist sounds inspired by Detroit, it has since progressed in becoming one of the main sources of underground music in the UK. Focusing on the deeper shades of new and classic underground music, Vinyl Underground now has a comprehensive coverage of US and European releases, encompassing everything from raw Detroit Techno and jackin’ Chicago House to classic New York Disco and deep Berlin House. Definitely one for the deeper heads…

WORDS: Aiden d’Araujo

don't know if i said thanks before aiden... but your article was really useful... i've since visited 3 of the record shops listed.
Full respect

Ayyub

Hello from the outskirts of Europe, Croatia. As a relatively younger (I'm 24) music lover/collector/sometimes selector I thought I might say a thing or two about being in touch with new releases an actually buying them.
Innersoul made a good point about buying CD's, now that I have around 1500 cd's it seems unwise to swith my spending on vinyl. And there are few reasons for that. Even though I live in Zagreb (witch is a capital) my firsti ntroduction with music media was and had to be trough cd's. And those were the good times when we had maybe two distributors for independent labels (even though the releases came at least a month late). So, there never was a place where you could buy any vinyl (ok,if you wanted to buy old Cher or The Police there is a shop..anyway), and get that feeling you're all talking about. When distibutors closed, I was already addicted to buying all new electronica releases so I started buying from on-line shops. When few years ago I had a chance to play from time to time at a local club I found myself in a dilemma: to start ordering so expensive vinyl or to continue buying expensive but more affordable CD's? Maybe I've made a mistake - I'm still a bit envy knowing that i could have all the innervisions or drumpoet releases when they're released and not waiting for the usually mixed compilation to come out. So, this puts me in a place where I can pursue my collecting and contibuting to young and independent artist but trying to make something as a selector or dj is a hopeless effort. And I think that a lot of younger people feel this in the 'outskirts of Europe'.

mhh, well, what can i say, maybe i´m taking the piss now from one or the other, but for me it is definately more comfortable to play digital at all.
i startet buying records since 15 or 16 years collecting about 15000 records at all and i´m really done with that. i still love vinyl at all, i love the look of a record, the sleeve and all that, but i can´t afford any more buying 10 or more records a week (which i done most of the time in the past) when i can have the same tracks for the price of two vinyls.
i still buy records i want to have, but a lot of recent tracks released these day aren´t worth to buy for a longer time. i buy them, play them 1 or 2 month and they are out for me. i still look for old records and buy them for a lot of money when i think they are worth the money, but not everything is it worth to be honest to have a place in my record collection.

anyway, i don´t feel shamed when playing with traktor my bought mp3 files in a club, even if some people look like idiots cause i´m so fuckin unreal, but if major djs play with the same setup they are still the number one...

but at the end of the everyone should do his thing like he likes and give the best he can as long he is really into the music.

ez

I have to agree with Sven (Hi by the way I am new to the forum!) collecting records is an expensive addiction, (don't even start on how much it can cost to start and run a clubnight in the UK) Like Sven I still buy records I really want, which tends to be music to listen to at home rather than play in a club. A lot of house and techno I wouldn't normally be able to afford I can now download, after all isn't it better for the artist if I contibute by downloading a track legally than not bother with it at all? Also then a friend may hear me play it, like it, then go buy it on vinyl!

I personally feel it also gives me more options when playing out, as of course instead of just having 60 -70 records I can have another 300 - 400 tracks on top of that.

Each to there own I say but adding CD Decks to my setup has only been a positive thing in my eyes but I am sure vinyl will live on as it has for many many years.

Just to let you know

cdr's are allready old format to use
most dj's and i mean wordwide known djs (see youtube )
moved to digital djing (see Serato or Traktor Scratch.)

So if you havent allready noticed most djs in the next 5-6 years goin to play with this and a laptop
Its the next step. Not only vinyl gonna die but cd-cdrs too.

And finnaly the technology-progress once again wins like always
you cant go back and i cant carrie crates to play i'm an old man !!!

Plus im not a kid anymore i have many things to do ruther go to a record shop and waste so much time,
to find the perfect record. Sad but true and i love the record stores since 90's

Sorry but i have to go forward !